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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
 Posted - 2008-02-11 : 19:35:10
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| Hi Experts,I have a question in one of the interviews relates to MS Certification.Is it require to have the MCDBA in SQL Server 2000 certification or required 2005 version certification?If so, What is the main difference in having that over 2000 version.Then it went like What the difference it makes having certification and what are the general comments about it.I know 2005 definetely have the edge over the 2000 certification but I didnt understand what the major advantage in having and have not such certification.Thanks in advance. |
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rmiao
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
7266 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-11 : 22:34:33
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| All depends on employer. |
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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 03:46:56
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Thanks Rmiao so far. May I get any valuable suggestions for possible discussion. |
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visakh16
Very Important crosS Applying yaK Herder
52326 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 04:00:49
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| Certification is like an official authorisation of your competency on a particular technology. Its has always more value to have an authorisation from an authority stating that you are an expert on this technology rather than you telling you're an expert. Thats why most employers insist of having certifications to prove your competency. Though it doesnt always imply you're an expert if you've certification or viceversa.And i think its better to go for certification on 2005 or later version as i've heard that MS is planning to stop all 2000 based certifications. |
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dewacorp.alliances
452 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 16:30:08
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| There are a lot of company that I know still using SQL2000. But in regards to certification, it's better off to get the SQL2005. |
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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 18:55:37
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| Thanks for enlightening on the topic so far |
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess
38200 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 19:10:33
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Originally posted by visakh16
Its has always more value to have an authorisation from an authority stating that you are an expert on this technology rather than you telling you're an expert.
I completely disagree with this. Having a certification means you can pass the tests, doesn't make you an expert on anything. Employers should interview their candidates in such a way that they find out the candidate's competency, not by looking at the certification list. Experience and knowledge first, certifications last.Tara KizerMicrosoft MVP for Windows Server System - SQL Serverhttp://weblogs.sqlteam.com/tarad/ |
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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-12 : 19:55:02
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| Thanks TKIZER.The same answer I have given in this regard as whether to need or not necessary. Though it is continuation of the Version from 2k to 2k5 it is not so necessary to have it provided if you have the potential and strengths to work on the platform. But on the other side of the coin it would be added qualification to sustain.Any how wonderful debate. Thanks to all |
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jackv
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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Posted - 2008-02-19 : 08:53:28
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| Understanding of the basics and loads of experience (technical and strategic) are essential . Certification is useful , in that it can force you to learn best practises etcJack Vamvas--------------------Search IT jobs from multiple sources- http://www.ITjobfeed.com |
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harsh_athalye
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
5581 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-19 : 08:59:30
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Certification makes you well-versed with the side of SQL Server which is not used much in real-world whereas experience makes you rich with the knowledge that is much more useful in real-world scenario.So, having both is good, but just having certification only means you have certain familiarity with the product!  Harsh AthalyeIndia."The IMPOSSIBLE is often UNTRIED" |
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visakh16
Very Important crosS Applying yaK Herder
52326 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-19 : 09:01:21
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Originally posted by tkizer
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Originally posted by visakh16
Its has always more value to have an authorisation from an authority stating that you are an expert on this technology rather than you telling you're an expert.
I completely disagree with this. Having a certification means you can pass the tests, doesn't make you an expert on anything. Employers should interview their candidates in such a way that they find out the candidate's competency, not by looking at the certification list. Experience and knowledge first, certifications last.Tara KizerMicrosoft MVP for Windows Server System - SQL Serverhttp://weblogs.sqlteam.com/tarad/
sorry Tara. I have told the same thing below. But the sad fact is that quite often there are instances where employers looks into number of certifications you've got as a parameter without really looking at your technical competency. Let me repeat that i honestly believe in what you've said. I myself have also had my certification only after i attained relevant experience on SQL. What i told was the market tradition that i came across quite often |
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sodeep
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
7174 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-19 : 09:34:08
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| Nowdays Certification has little or no value in the market. |
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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-19 : 17:57:44
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| Yes Sodeep. I have been asked to give the explanation whether to have the certification or not.My answer for that was Not having the certification doesn't give any meritorious points unless otherwise without knowledge in practical essence. But on the otherside of the coin, it is having the brand name like the product which is widely recognized product. I feel the edge is to have the real time solutions to the environment with an inclination towards acting on it. |
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megbot
Starting Member
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Posted - 2008-02-21 : 15:24:53
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Originally posted by tkizer
Having a certification means you can pass the tests, doesn't make you an expert on anything. Employers should interview their candidates in such a way that they find out the candidate's competency, not by looking at the certification list. Experience and knowledge first, certifications last.
I'm a bit late in reply to this, but I have to point something out. There are a lot of things employers should do, however a lot of the time the person conducting interview is not necessarily a technical person. That said, if you and another co-applicant have the same general qualifications, education, and experience, but candidate B has the certification, candidate B is getting the job.Ik now the job I had prior to my current, would not have been my job if not for my Cisco certifications. Given, Cisco is different than SQL, but I feel the same principals apply.I agree, certification does not imply skill, but neither does a college diploma. All the same, employers look for those qualities in candidates, and rightly so. At the very least, a diploma or ceritication shows discipline, dedication, and enough interest in the topic to study for and pay for the test. |
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vasanthhepsy
Starting Member
48 Posts |
Posted - 2008-02-21 : 18:29:26
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| How about living examples of practical scenarios being implicated in the course of MS Certifications.Correct me if wrong, by doing that way it will be helpful to the student profile to adapt and exchange such nuiances in the real life scenarios rather than just for the verification of / for the standards as directed by MS organisation |
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Certification !!!!!!!!!!!!